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		<title>By: Jinan Shah</title>
		<link>http://flockpost.com/new-orkut-is-it-a-threat-for-orkut-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-3946</link>
		<dc:creator>Jinan Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing is, Being moderator of some communities, I generally visit the communities to accept new members. And If I found something interesting I just write over there. As now Moderation is easy and on profile page, my visit to community has been affected and reduced for sure. It is possible that people may find owner or Moderator, not that active as they may expect. Let&#039;s see what Orkut developers are working on to keep interest of users in Community...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing is, Being moderator of some communities, I generally visit the communities to accept new members. And If I found something interesting I just write over there. As now Moderation is easy and on profile page, my visit to community has been affected and reduced for sure. It is possible that people may find owner or Moderator, not that active as they may expect. Let&#39;s see what Orkut developers are working on to keep interest of users in Community&#8230;</f</p>
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		<title>By: Jinan Shah</title>
		<link>http://flockpost.com/new-orkut-is-it-a-threat-for-orkut-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-3576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jinan Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing is, Being moderator of some communities, I generally visit the communities to accept new members. And If I found something interesting I just write over there. As now Moderation is easy and on profile page, my visit to community has been affected and reduced for sure. It is possible that people may find owner or Moderator, not that active as they may expect. Let&#039;s see what Orkut developers are working on to keep interest of users in Community...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing is, Being moderator of some communities, I generally visit the communities to accept new members. And If I found something interesting I just write over there. As now Moderation is easy and on profile page, my visit to community has been affected and reduced for sure. It is possible that people may find owner or Moderator, not that active as they may expect. Let&#39;s see what Orkut developers are working on to keep interest of users in Community&#8230;</f</p>
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		<title>By: Paracelsus</title>
		<link>http://flockpost.com/new-orkut-is-it-a-threat-for-orkut-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-3571</link>
		<dc:creator>Paracelsus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do understand the point you are making, Zazo, and it is well taken.  There are many ways to view the situation, none of which are exclusively valid or wrong.  BTW... I personally feel that Supriya was being unduly harsh in his critique.  I admire your forbearance in replying.&lt;br&gt;Your question was most certainly NOT silly.  It is a subject of great concern to many first time parents.  But enough of that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most people who know me, know that I value quality over quantity. I&#039;ve not been interested in having a huge number of friends or being a member of a large number of communities.  Neither have I any interest in member counts at the communities I own.  In fact, as all of my communities are Moderated and I review every new member request....&lt;br&gt;I frequently turn down those who already belong to 300+ Communities, as it is almost certain that they are merely &quot;collecting&quot; Communities and have no real interest in participating. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But as you say... Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do understand the point you are making, Zazo, and it is well taken.  There are many ways to view the situation, none of which are exclusively valid or wrong.  BTW&#8230; I personally feel that Supriya was being unduly harsh in his critique.  I admire your forbearance in replying.<br />Your question was most certainly NOT silly.  It is a subject of great concern to many first time parents.  But enough of that.</p><p>Most people who know me, know that I value quality over quantity. I&#39;ve not been interested in having a huge number of friends or being a member of a large number of communities.  Neither have I any interest in member counts at the communities I own.  In fact, as all of my communities are Moderated and I review every new member request&#8230;.<br />I frequently turn down those who already belong to 300+ Communities, as it is almost certain that they are merely &#8220;collecting&#8221; Communities and have no real interest in participating. </p><p>But as you say&#8230; Time will tell.</f</p>
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		<title>By: zazo</title>
		<link>http://flockpost.com/new-orkut-is-it-a-threat-for-orkut-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-3569</link>
		<dc:creator>zazo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Supriya and  Paracelsus,&lt;br&gt;I agree to your points for not completely agreeing with me. But, I still stand with my views on orkut communities being neglected by orkut since years. The new orkut may not be a 100% threat to orkut communities but to some extent it will deduct the amount of time orkut users spend on their favorite communities.&lt;br&gt;Most of the people on social networking are more interested in connecting to a large network than making themselves busy in communities or groups however, they have interest in particular subject but still they find less time to search for a related group, than post a discussion topic and finally keep on checking for replies, mind it I am not talking about community forum enthusiasts like we all, so if you consider my point than orkut is making busy people more on their own profiles.&lt;br&gt;Niche communities are another exceptions because its fact that you wont enjoy the deep discussions and debates without joining a real dedicated group. Well, lets see how people take this new orkut in their daily online activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Supriya and  Paracelsus,<br />I agree to your points for not completely agreeing with me. But, I still stand with my views on orkut communities being neglected by orkut since years. The new orkut may not be a 100% threat to orkut communities but to some extent it will deduct the amount of time orkut users spend on their favorite communities.<br />Most of the people on social networking are more interested in connecting to a large network than making themselves busy in communities or groups however, they have interest in particular subject but still they find less time to search for a related group, than post a discussion topic and finally keep on checking for replies, mind it I am not talking about community forum enthusiasts like we all, so if you consider my point than orkut is making busy people more on their own profiles.<br />Niche communities are another exceptions because its fact that you wont enjoy the deep discussions and debates without joining a real dedicated group. Well, lets see how people take this new orkut in their daily online activity.</f</p>
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		<title>By: latest news</title>
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		<dc:creator>latest news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i myself running a big community. is it really true man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i myself running a big community. is it really true man?</f</p>
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		<title>By: SupriyaTyagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>SupriyaTyagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be frank, writer has miscalculated the importance of communities just by getting answer of a silly question out of the community. I&#039;ll be taking this point later in my comment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as question is of the users spending most of their time in updating their profiles, let me tell you, this is fondness of just a few months, if not days. New Orkut would become normal someday. We would hardly bother changing our About Me section. Do you remember the time when we could not even format text in ABOUT ME section in colors, and everything used to remain emotionless, there was no hyperlinking. When google introduced all these feature, there was a enthusiasm. But it lasted for some days, and then users became addicted to it, and did what they actually used Orkut to do. Same would happen with this. And to be more frank, many users don&#039;t even know how to embed images, flash objects in profile. When they learn it, obviously, the would have a zeal for it. What do you think? They would stick to same thing forever? Nope. Either people would change, or Orkut will again be back with new changes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lets come to communities now. You know communities serve unlimited purposes, and answer unlimited questions. Just by getting one answer by updating the status doesn&#039;t write off importance of communities. There are communities that stand very good when it comes to discussion of nations, politics, technology, education, gaming and stuff. If a communnity has 100k members, and suppose only only 1% of it are active, can you imagine number of replies to your question? You can&#039;t even add 1% to your friends&#039; list. Just check out India community. I bet you won&#039;t doubt importance of communities. There are hell lot of other communities that have great discussions going on within them. You can&#039;t get that benefit in your profile for sure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And as far as is the question of adding more features in communities, let me tell you, google is already working out on them. But proper changes would be brought in at the apt time. Improvement comes out with time :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have Fun. God bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be frank, writer has miscalculated the importance of communities just by getting answer of a silly question out of the community. I&#39;ll be taking this point later in my comment.</p><p>As far as question is of the users spending most of their time in updating their profiles, let me tell you, this is fondness of just a few months, if not days. New Orkut would become normal someday. We would hardly bother changing our About Me section. Do you remember the time when we could not even format text in ABOUT ME section in colors, and everything used to remain emotionless, there was no hyperlinking. When google introduced all these feature, there was a enthusiasm. But it lasted for some days, and then users became addicted to it, and did what they actually used Orkut to do. Same would happen with this. And to be more frank, many users don&#39;t even know how to embed images, flash objects in profile. When they learn it, obviously, the would have a zeal for it. What do you think? They would stick to same thing forever? Nope. Either people would change, or Orkut will again be back with new changes.</p><p>Lets come to communities now. You know communities serve unlimited purposes, and answer unlimited questions. Just by getting one answer by updating the status doesn&#39;t write off importance of communities. There are communities that stand very good when it comes to discussion of nations, politics, technology, education, gaming and stuff. If a communnity has 100k members, and suppose only only 1% of it are active, can you imagine number of replies to your question? You can&#39;t even add 1% to your friends&#39; list. Just check out India community. I bet you won&#39;t doubt importance of communities. There are hell lot of other communities that have great discussions going on within them. You can&#39;t get that benefit in your profile for sure.</p><p>And as far as is the question of adding more features in communities, let me tell you, google is already working out on them. But proper changes would be brought in at the apt time. Improvement comes out with time <img src='http://flockpost.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p><p>Have Fun. God bless</f</p>
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		<title>By: Paracelsus</title>
		<link>http://flockpost.com/new-orkut-is-it-a-threat-for-orkut-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-3558</link>
		<dc:creator>Paracelsus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written review, Zazo.  I do agree that Orkut/Google is tending to focus too much on the stylistic details and content of Profile pages, while neglecting improvements and developments for  Communities.  However...&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not quite so pessimistic about the new version being a threat to communities.  Your experiment was quite interesting in comparing the contributions you received on your question, between the Friend Updates on your Homepage, and a Topic in a community.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I may say though... It was a question of a rather personal nature, although I do realize that the input of other Parents would be valuable to others, when posted in a community setting.  Yet there are many subjects that just really do not lend themselves to a simple and limited discussion, as exist in Friend Updates.  Several of the Communities I own... Such as Classical Music and Astronomy II, often require the contributions of many members who may not be mutual friends.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many of we Community owner would love if there were greater participation in our Communities...&lt;br&gt;Yet we cannot deny that as owners, we do have somewhat of an obligation to be a stimulus for participation.  One of the minor ways I try to do this is by not answering questions relayed to me personally.  If someone scraps me with questions about Astronomy or Classical Music, I politely ask them to post about it in the Community.  That by doing so, the responses and answers will be available to any and all who may have similar questions.&lt;br&gt;As well as, potentially being a spark for conversation or debate on similar topics of interest.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Basically... I guess what I&#039;m trying to say is that people who are active participants in Communities... Or new Orkut members who desire to participate in Communities... Are not going to be less likely to do so because of the new version of Orkut.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You and others have made great suggestions on features which would make Communities of both greater use to members, but also more easily managed by the owner and mods.  A few others that I would like to see, and are a basic option in most Internet Bulletin Boards...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* A hidden section of the Community, where the owner and mods can easily communicate about potential problem members... topics and post with questionable content... etc.&lt;br&gt;* The ability for owners and/or mods, to edit the content of member posts.&lt;br&gt;* Allowing the owner to &quot;customize&quot; the rights extended to mods.&lt;br&gt;* Implementing a facile method to create back-ups of Community content.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d also be very interested in reading comments by Michelle and Lynn.  They are both very contentious Community owners who have some very good ideas as well. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Frank F. Moore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written review, Zazo.  I do agree that Orkut/Google is tending to focus too much on the stylistic details and content of Profile pages, while neglecting improvements and developments for  Communities.  However&#8230;<br />I&#39;m not quite so pessimistic about the new version being a threat to communities.  Your experiment was quite interesting in comparing the contributions you received on your question, between the Friend Updates on your Homepage, and a Topic in a community.</p><p>If I may say though&#8230; It was a question of a rather personal nature, although I do realize that the input of other Parents would be valuable to others, when posted in a community setting.  Yet there are many subjects that just really do not lend themselves to a simple and limited discussion, as exist in Friend Updates.  Several of the Communities I own&#8230; Such as Classical Music and Astronomy II, often require the contributions of many members who may not be mutual friends.</p><p>Many of we Community owner would love if there were greater participation in our Communities&#8230;<br />Yet we cannot deny that as owners, we do have somewhat of an obligation to be a stimulus for participation.  One of the minor ways I try to do this is by not answering questions relayed to me personally.  If someone scraps me with questions about Astronomy or Classical Music, I politely ask them to post about it in the Community.  That by doing so, the responses and answers will be available to any and all who may have similar questions.<br />As well as, potentially being a spark for conversation or debate on similar topics of interest.</p><p>Basically&#8230; I guess what I&#39;m trying to say is that people who are active participants in Communities&#8230; Or new Orkut members who desire to participate in Communities&#8230; Are not going to be less likely to do so because of the new version of Orkut.</p><p>You and others have made great suggestions on features which would make Communities of both greater use to members, but also more easily managed by the owner and mods.  A few others that I would like to see, and are a basic option in most Internet Bulletin Boards&#8230;</p><p>* A hidden section of the Community, where the owner and mods can easily communicate about potential problem members&#8230; topics and post with questionable content&#8230; etc.<br />* The ability for owners and/or mods, to edit the content of member posts.<br />* Allowing the owner to &#8220;customize&#8221; the rights extended to mods.<br />* Implementing a facile method to create back-ups of Community content.</p><p>I&#39;d also be very interested in reading comments by Michelle and Lynn.  They are both very contentious Community owners who have some very good ideas as well. </p><p>&#8211; Frank F. Moore</f</p>
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		<title>By: zazo</title>
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		<dc:creator>zazo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many more features which are in need. Thannks anyways Chandra, hope they read this.</description>
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		<title>By: zazo</title>
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		<dc:creator>zazo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social Networking sites is a hot business, they hardly cares about what&#039;s going inside it. I dare to say that this new orkut is an answer to fastest growing facebook in India and Brazil.</description>
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		<title>By: Chandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from what you mentioned, Orkut communities is missing a major feature.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There must be a way to subscribe to forum topics and see the updates/answers in the user homepage. Otherwise it is so difficult to go the topic and check for replies every time. This is missing from a long time. It&#039;s high time they implement it. This feature increases the participation in the communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from what you mentioned, Orkut communities is missing a major feature.</p><p>There must be a way to subscribe to forum topics and see the updates/answers in the user homepage. Otherwise it is so difficult to go the topic and check for replies every time. This is missing from a long time. It&#39;s high time they implement it. This feature increases the participation in the communities.</f</p>
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